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There are many people who are finding it difficult, and truly impossible, to harmonize the various positions that are being advocated concerning baptism. John ; 1 Corinthians Before I reflect on some New Testament passages about baptism, let me ask you to consider this question. How can we arrive at the truth concerning this important teaching of the Bible? The truth is something that is critical with regards to our salvation — as these passages indicate.
Baptisms, First Communion and Confirmation
Matthew — John —7. Acts — Alma — Articles of Faith Additional Talks. Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith, chapter 7. Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young, chapter 9. Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Lorenzo Snow, chapter 2.
Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph F. Smith, chapter 7. Teachings of Presidents of the Church: David O.
Baptism is a controversial subject in the religious world. How should it be performed? Who is a proper candidate for baptism? What is the purpose of baptism?. This article reexamines the text and interpretation of three crucial passages in Avitus of Vienne's Ep. 46, the only contemporary document. Baptism by immersion in water by one having authority is the first saving ordinance of the gospel and is necessary for an individual to become a member of The.
McKay, chapter Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Harold B. Lee, chapter 4. A baptism can occur at any age; infant, child, or adult.
So I don't think it wise to associate a baptism with a birth date. The last baptism record I found threw me for a loop. I was looking for the baptism of a baby and I discovered that he was baptized in London at age 35!
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At least this gives me a clue that his siblings were probably not baptized as infants either when I go looking for documentation. If the original document is dubbed "Christening", I will just put it in the timeline and record a circa for the birth.
If the original document is dubbed "baptism", I will enter as baptism and add the source document. In Europe, and how confusing and possibly irrelevant, but useful in Colonial America. In other words I'm suggesting the other way around; that baptism be the timeline event, and christening the optional birth associated event. I think your approach, Leslie Ann, is a good one. While there are many different "meanings" associated with baptisms and christening, they are essentially just events in a person's life.
While a number of 'traditions' associate christening with infants, that is not necessarily the case. In the absence of information about other events e.
The thing about the baptism field currently is that often the only record for a d. So while I see it as event, it really can be critical in dating the profile, and needs the prominent slot on the face of the profile.
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I would not move baptism to an event but keep it where it is for ancestors of Americans in great numbers, we have baptism and not birth dates. At least in the towns I've looked at. Jews and Muslim don't baptizeJew have circumcision I think we need a dynamic field that changes it's name and meaning according to profile's religion BTW - we should have a date for religion change Muhamad Alli or Kat Stevens. We don't need anything from Geni - what we need is that people start learning how to add whatever event they want by discovering the big blue button named [Add a New Event] on a profile and name the event whatever they want.
The reason is that on an international site you cannot satisfy everyone and some predefined fields might even insult people if they are bound to some specific religious event baptism is in the borderline. A christening field would probably insult most Muslims seeing the field on their family profiles. May be the [Add a New Event] should get a more prominent place on a profile an not all the way to the right of the Timeline tab?Can a Catholic Marry a Non-Catholic?
Bjorn, I cannot agree with this time. Bjorn: I just did That would allow them to be exchanged with other genealogical programs more consistently.
The 'predefined' events could even include relevant fields unique to those types of events. For example, with Baptisms or Christening the event fields could include a place to define parents and God-parents multiples!
Baptism and dating
I'm not implying that all existing "genealogical events" such as birth, death, etc. Just that by having 'pre-defined' event templates the data can become more consistent over time. Then the "genealogical debate" can be about which additional events would be useful to become "standard" in the exchange of information between software programs e.
Take a closer look again on a Baptism event on a profile, - which you by the way can rename to Christening. Click on it in the timeline - You can add more people to it, write a description, add documents, photos like a photo of the gravestone for the burial event and so on. Be aware that there are TWO different edit links when viewing an event.
Christening Date Vs. Baptism Date
One to the upper right for Event Details where you add people, location, date and so on, and one for the About text. I agree with Bjorn. We don't really need Geni to do anything, adding the Christening event to the timeline, so I can attach the proper document will work just fine. However it would be nice if the "Add a New Event" button was on the face of the profile. My main concern was just being able to document and source the event properly. I don't want to add a Christening document to a baptism event, and I should have already known to do it with the timeline, but I had a brain fart.
And I just want to note that the timeline is important because it's the key to telling one's story. I'm not just connecting dots here, I want to know everything I can about an ancestor. I agree with Dan and Leslie data exchange is important as well as usability of adding the data itself. In the meantime I'm using the baptism field interchangeably with to help date of birth calculation and definition. I will continue using the baptism field.